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Imperial Boxes GURU
Apr 1, 2021, 02:11 (UTC)
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Last Edit : Apr 1, 2021, 02:47 (UTC)
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Its become an annoying thing to make your daily Imperial Trades, the game is asking us to log in a daily basis for rewards and shit but can't increase the Guru boxes per server, 5 am and it's Sold out after reset in less than 1min sold out! Sometimes I wonder do devs play their game?! Its same numbers last 2+ years, even the season character player is GURU cooking!  

p.s #1 no this is not HEIDEL, its Odylitaaa

p.s #2 back in the days everyone was 200/300CP now many players are above 350/400 CP, which means 200 trades per day, not only many players are GURU but they have also higher CP, higher CP = More Trades! 

 

 

Last Edit : Apr 1, 2021, 03:02 (UTC)
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Server cap on imperials makes no sense always hasn't always won't. Who know if they'll ever care to remove them either personally I highly doubt they will cause they should have 5 years ago.

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Last Edit : Apr 1, 2021, 08:29 (UTC)
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I didn't get what's the difference Heidel / Odylitta or whatnot. The limit is per server, not per NPC in town. This means that for every server (and afaik it's shared also between every channel on the server) you get this limit.

 

It all is broken tbh. I have no idea what's their reasoning for having 600m+/hour grinding areas (see the neighboring complain thread) but cranking the limit so tight here. It's like - what, 500 boxes after the update on 1 server which happens every ~3 hours? This means you got ~4000 boxes per day on one server. It's laughable, it's just for 20 players to sell their boxes. Now, ok, we got several servers. Even if we say it's 10 times the amount, that's 200 people who can trade it. Of course it will be gone in less than 1 minute!

 

One can argue "ah, but high silver spots are contested, you need to fight there" and yada yada. Guess what? Not everybody likes to fight overgeared other people. Those life-skillers are exactly the type of player who don't have much time to dedicate to the game per day. Be too harsh on them - and they'll leave. And "not a lot of time to spend on a game" usually means "that's because of work" which usually means "that's a paying customer".

 

Now it's ok to have a challenge - but here it's not a challenge it's an artificially created solution for a non-existent problem.

Last Edit : Apr 1, 2021, 09:24 (UTC)
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On: Apr 1, 2021, 08:28 (UTC), Written by Transfinite

I didn't get what's the difference Heidel / Odylitta or whatnot. The limit is per server, not per NPC in town. This means that for every server (and afaik it's shared also between every channel on the server) you get this limit.

 

It all is broken tbh. I have no idea what's their reasoning for having 600m+/hour grinding areas (see the neighboring complain thread) but cranking the limit so tight here. It's like - what, 500 boxes after the update on 1 server which happens every ~3 hours? This means you got ~4000 boxes per day on one server. It's laughable, it's just for 20 players to sell their boxes. Now, ok, we got several servers. Even if we say it's 10 times the amount, that's 200 people who can trade it. Of course it will be gone in less than 1 minute!

 

WHAT THE HELL are you talking about!? 4000 crayes per day??? do you even understand how the imperial system works??

Last Edit : Apr 1, 2021, 09:35 (UTC)
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On: Apr 1, 2021, 02:11 (UTC), Written by MamoruKin

Its become an annoying thing to make your daily Imperial Trades, the game is asking us to log in a daily basis for rewards and shit but can't increase the Guru boxes per server, 5 am and it's Sold out after reset in less than 1min sold out! Sometimes I wonder do devs play their game?! Its same numbers last 2+ years, even the season character player is GURU cooking!  

p.s #1 no this is not HEIDEL, its Odylitaaa

p.s #2 back in the days everyone was 200/300CP now many players are above 350/400 CP, which means 200 trades per day, not only many players are GURU but they have also higher CP, higher CP = More Trades! 

 

 

 

About GURU boxes, they are a bait for stupid people, just do an in depth analysis of the imperial cooking profit and you will (maybe) understand what i mean.

 

I do agree with your main point tho, these stupid korean devs have a fixation with everything being competitive, you cannot just log in and enjoy the game you have to "earn" your right to relax too (and pay for it in the process) and then they are like "wHY dO PeOple LEavE ouR GAme?"

 

Oh and in case you are intrested Elyon will start CBT soon, i think it wont be a better game than BDO but if its more fun then it could totally be worth it.

Last Edit : Apr 1, 2021, 10:14 (UTC)
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On: Apr 1, 2021, 09:24 (UTC), Written by ProjectBBQ

WHAT THE HELL are you talking about!? 4000 crayes per day??? do you even understand how the imperial system works??

He wanted summary total possible number of guru boxes for the game per day but he did it wrong.

We have 41 channels and 8 Imperial crafting delivery NPC in game (each npc - 457 guru boxes).  Imperial Delivery is reset once every 3 hours so we have 7 resets daily (reset number 8 it's the next day).

Summary: 41 x 8 x 7 x 457 = 1 049 272 guru boxes per day (in theory).

Now (in theory) all players with 400 CP so 200 boxes per day:  1 049 272 / 200 = 5246

In theory 5246 players can sell 200 guru boxes each day.

On: Apr 1, 2021, 09:35 (UTC), Written by ProjectBBQ

About GURU boxes, they are a bait for stupid people, just do an in depth analysis of the imperial cooking profit and you will (maybe) understand what i mean.

I did not want to count it, but it seems to me that they do not pay off if you sum whole mats cost, utensil cost, and time cost.

 

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Last Edit : Apr 1, 2021, 10:49 (UTC)
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On: Apr 1, 2021, 10:11 (UTC), Written by Senemedar

He wanted summary total possible number of guru boxes for the game per day but he did it wrong.

We have 41 channels and 8 Imperial crafting delivery NPC in game (each npc - 457 guru boxes).  Imperial Delivery is reset once every 3 hours so we have 7 resets daily (reset number 8 it's the next day).

Summary: 41 x 8 x 7 x 457 = 1 049 272 guru boxes per day (in theory).

Now (in theory) all players with 400 CP so 200 boxes per day:  1 049 272 / 200 = 5246

In theory 5246 players can sell 200 guru boxes each day.

 

I did not want to count it, but it seems to me that they do not pay off if you sum whole mats cost, utensil cost, and time cost.

 

Wow i hadnt done those numbers but now that you brought them up they are very telling, a game that boast about having millions of players only allows 5k player to turn in GURU boxes, i dont do guru boxes and even i feel pìssed off right now.

 

You are correct, I did a very indepth excell about imperial cooking and only at extreme mastery levels like mastery 2000 wich is guru 50 cooking and full PEN manos accesories GURU boxes are better than straight selling off the materials for like 20 millions difference every 200 boxes LOL (and thats under the assumption that you are farming your own onions and pepper!! xD)

 

 

Last Edit : Apr 1, 2021, 10:49 (UTC)
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To add onto this:

The reset number is fluctuating as well I believe and I'm also not sure if a reset is still RNG or garantueed. I saw 388 Guru boxes on reset in Heidel today. 4 people camped the NPC, moved boxes via container and finished them in 1 minute. Its an absolute antique system which should get revamped. Its enough that there is a personal cap. We dont need a channel cap or a town cap, these two are so unnecessary.

Last Edit : Apr 1, 2021, 10:57 (UTC)
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On: Apr 1, 2021, 09:24 (UTC), Written by ProjectBBQ

WHAT THE HELL are you talking about!? 4000 crayes per day??? do you even understand how the imperial system works??

There's no need to be rude.

Okay, I got the number of crates wrong by ~2 orders of magnitude.. See?

On: Apr 1, 2021, 10:11 (UTC), Written by Senemedar

 

In theory 5246 players can sell 200 guru boxes each day.

 

So the number of people is off by 1 order of magnitude. Such a big leap from 200 that I counted.. yeah.

 

My point was exactly that the limit which currently exists makes no sense whatsoverer.

 

On: Apr 1, 2021, 10:49 (UTC), Written by ProjectBBQ

You are correct, I did a very indepth excell about imperial cooking and only at extreme mastery levels like mastery 2000 wich is guru 50 cooking and full PEN manos accesories GURU boxes are better than straight selling off the materials for like 20 millions difference every 200 boxes LOL (and thats under the assumption that you are farming your own onions and pepper!! xD)

 

 

By the way, if this is true then Professional boxes are way better. Turning in just ~170 of them every day is about 41mil net profit for me at the moment.

Last Edit : Apr 1, 2021, 11:24 (UTC)
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On: Apr 1, 2021, 09:35 (UTC), Written by ProjectBBQ

 

these stupid korean devs have a fixation with everything being competitive, you cannot just log in and enjoy the game you have to "earn" your right to relax too (and pay for it in the process) and then they are like "wHY dO PeOple LEavE ouR GAme?"

 

Oh and in case you are intrested Elyon will start CBT soon, i think it wont be a better game than BDO but if its more fun then it could totally be worth it.

Thats why Korean dont play the game, go check which position is BDO in Korea, some days you just want to log in make your trades and call the day, doesnt have to be everyday grind grind grind, you bourn out quikly! 

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