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Self heal
Apr 1, 2021, 02:42 (UTC)
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Last Edit : Apr 1, 2021, 02:47 (UTC)
# 1

Requesting better self heal for glass cannon classes. Spically for PVE.
Ninja & lahn has the best self heal as melee fighters [No HP.reco buff needed].
Wiz/witch has best healing skill over all classes[No HP.reco buff needed].

DK lack a self heal very badly in PVE dispite her being the most paper class in BDO [HP.reco buff needed].

Valk, warrior, gurdian, beserker, striker, Mystic.... Dispite being the most tankiest class, there self heal is Insanely good [No HP.reco buff needed].

Sorc is something else to talk about but even she has better self-heal then DK dispite she being iframe based class. [No HP.reco buff needed]

Giving better HP recovery for the class DK that is very paper is necessery cause they die very fast in PVE because they don't have good self heal to keep the HP float.
Other classes are fine [No HP.reco buff needed].
And please don't say "get infinite HP pot" or "use HP pot" cause HP pot are very heavy & Infintite HP pot is not easy to get.

Last Edit : Apr 1, 2021, 04:49 (UTC)
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https://bdocodex.com/us/skill/2341/ -HP Recovery +25 per every hit
https://bdocodex.com/us/skill/3091/ -HP Recovery +40 per every hit
https://bdocodex.com/us/skill/2758/ -HP Recovery +10 on hits

Succ
https://bdocodex.com/us/skill/4788/ -HP Recovery +20 per every hit
https://bdocodex.com/us/skill/4806/ -HP Recovery +30 per every hit

Awakening
https://bdocodex.com/us/skill/2391/ -HP Recovery +28 per every hit

Just hit 10 mobs when using the skills. If its still not enough, use skill add ons.

Last Edit : Apr 7, 2021, 22:02 (UTC)
# 3
On: Apr 1, 2021, 04:49 (UTC), Written by Muhaha

https://bdocodex.com/us/skill/2341/ -HP Recovery +25 per every hit

Awgust: 25 sec CD and only 100HP recovery [I use this].


https://bdocodex.com/us/skill/3091/ -HP Recovery +40 per every hit

Awgust: 20 sec CD and 240HP recovery which is very slow, unprotected and animation lock (u can die in High END spot if u use it and i already lost 3 jin crystals trying to heal my self from this crystals).


https://bdocodex.com/us/skill/2758/ -HP Recovery +10 on hits

Awgust: O.o -> "30 sec CD" and 100HP, which is again not protected and u will miss "2nd WoF" skill for this.

Succ => Awgust: Awakening DK player
https://bdocodex.com/us/skill/4788/ -HP Recovery +20 per every hit
https://bdocodex.com/us/skill/4806/ -HP Recovery +30 per every hit

Awakening
https://bdocodex.com/us/skill/2391/ -HP Recovery +28 per every hit

Awgust: Only this is handful/useful. 250 HP recovery and can animation can be canceled [I use this].

Just hit 10 mobs when using the skills. If its still not enough, use skill add ons.

More mobs ≠ More HP revovery. HP recovery is per Hit. I have 4.5K HP. Even if i use those skills Every 20 sec. Which heals me 680HP every 20 sec. Striker can heal +600HP every 6 sec and lahn, Ninja, Tamer can heal much more. Even sorc can heal 970HP every 10 sec just from awakening skills.

 

Last Edit : Apr 8, 2021, 00:18 (UTC)
# 4

When it comes to +hp per hit, hitting more mobs does = more hp.

From just the awakening one alone you should be able to get 28hp per target, limited to 10 targets, so 280hp and the skill hits 4 times. So just don't cancel it, ez 1120hp every 8 sec. 

If this still doesn't float your boat, put +hp on skill add ons.

Last Edit : Apr 8, 2021, 00:38 (UTC)
# 5
On: Apr 1, 2021, 04:49 (UTC), Written by Muhaha

https://bdocodex.com/us/skill/2341/ -HP Recovery +25 per every hit
https://bdocodex.com/us/skill/3091/ -HP Recovery +40 per every hit
https://bdocodex.com/us/skill/2758/ -HP Recovery +10 on hits

Succ
https://bdocodex.com/us/skill/4788/ -HP Recovery +20 per every hit
https://bdocodex.com/us/skill/4806/ -HP Recovery +30 per every hit

Awakening
https://bdocodex.com/us/skill/2391/ -HP Recovery +28 per every hit

Just hit 10 mobs when using the skills. If its still not enough, use skill add ons.

HHAHAHAHAHAHAH OMG that's funny, Ultimate Stinger being counted on to self heal, if you are casting Unveiled dagger in PvE you did something majorly wrong,  Corrupted Ground, if a mob looks at you funny it gets interupted, goes on Full CD and gives no HP.  Wrath of Vedir over Shadow Strike in PvE?  Are you on crack?

Maybe you should level your DK higher than level 56 before you start telling people about the class they play.  Also your comments are rich coming from a Valk, Shift + E 100% self heal, Shift + LMB 30% self heal, and that's the 2 I use on my boss alt that I know off the top of my head.

 

Some classes are fine on self heal in PvE, Ranger and DK are 2 of the classes that get royally screwed when it comes to self heals.

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Last Edit : Apr 8, 2021, 04:57 (UTC)
# 6
On: Apr 8, 2021, 00:38 (UTC), Written by Werbs

HHAHAHAHAHAHAH OMG that's funny, Ultimate Stinger being counted on to self heal, if you are casting Unveiled dagger in PvE you did something majorly wrong,  Corrupted Ground, if a mob looks at you funny it gets interupted, goes on Full CD and gives no HP.  Wrath of Vedir over Shadow Strike in PvE?  Are you on crack?

Maybe you should level your DK higher than level 56 before you start telling people about the class they play.  Also your comments are rich coming from a Valk, Shift + E 100% self heal, Shift + LMB 30% self heal, and that's the 2 I use on my boss alt that I know off the top of my head.

 

Some classes are fine on self heal in PvE, Ranger and DK are 2 of the classes that get royally screwed when it comes to self heals.

Never told anyone how to play, just listed his skills, and told him he could toss on some add ons if it doesn't float his boat. Dude asked a question with stipulations, where is you're answer or suggestions? You have none? Just being a shitter?? Let me guess, the kid that has his stuff on private is God of the game and knows all. 
100% LOOOL
https://bdocodex.com/us/skill/1957/ -puri is 20% 8s
And https://bdocodex.com/us/skill/3201/ -Heal is 30% 30s
Rich coming from someone who 'uses' the class, has access to looking at skills, and still gets it wrong.

Last Edit : Apr 8, 2021, 07:46 (UTC)
# 7
On: Apr 1, 2021, 04:49 (UTC), Written by Muhaha

Awakening
https://bdocodex.com/us/skill/2391/ -HP Recovery +28 per every hit

Just hit 10 mobs when using the skills. If its still not enough, use skill add ons.

That ability do little damage with long animation time, unprotected, melee with a small AOE. It's not easy to hit 10targets with that. Also that heals 40 / hit at max skill level.

That is a trash ability and if you use that, you already doing something wrong. You better use potions or smash HP regen on your actually usefull abilities.

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Last Edit : Apr 8, 2021, 11:51 (UTC)
# 8
On: Apr 8, 2021, 04:57 (UTC), Written by Muhaha

Never told anyone how to play, just listed his skills, and told him he could toss on some add ons if it doesn't float his boat. Dude asked a question with stipulations, where is you're answer or suggestions? You have none? Just being a shitter?? Let me guess, the kid that has his stuff on private is God of the game and knows all. 
100% LOOOL
https://bdocodex.com/us/skill/1957/ -puri is 20% 8s
And https://bdocodex.com/us/skill/3201/ -Heal is 30% 30s
Rich coming from someone who 'uses' the class, has access to looking at skills, and still gets it wrong.

 

30s CD has to hit nothing, Purification is on an 8 second CD, and heals 80 per hit with a large area.  I know what it does when used, if I Need SP and have a good chunk of health missing I press Shift + E and get back to full health, if I take half my health in damage I press Shift + LMB and get back to full.  The 8 second Purification does 80 HP per hit in a large area, that's actually massive, and you compare that to 28 HP per hit in a very tiny area. 

 

The fact that I know the keybinds off the top of my head and don't have to go looking up the class skill to tell you what it does says I know more about your class than you know about mine.

 

Stop using "addons" as a justification for not needing a self heal in a player's kit, there are far better uses for addons than + HP, it is laughable that a person would even suggest that.  Why don't you do as asked, level your DK and Ranger up and got to a hard grind spot, then come back here and tell me you don't need HP sustain on the class.  Before you comment on if a class needs anything, I suggest spending more than 5 minutes using said class.

 

Hey smart guy, how does a Ranger Recover HP via her base kit.

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Last Edit : Apr 9, 2021, 00:26 (UTC)
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On: Apr 8, 2021, 11:51 (UTC), Written by Werbs

 

30s CD has to hit nothing, Purification is on an 8 second CD, and heals 80 per hit with a large area.  I know what it does when used, if I Need SP and have a good chunk of health missing I press Shift + E and get back to full health, if I take half my health in damage I press Shift + LMB and get back to full.  The 8 second Purification does 80 HP per hit in a large area, that's actually massive, and you compare that to 28 HP per hit in a very tiny area. 

 

The fact that I know the keybinds off the top of my head and don't have to go looking up the class skill to tell you what it does says I know more about your class than you know about mine.

 

Stop using "addons" as a justification for not needing a self heal in a player's kit, there are far better uses for addons than + HP, it is laughable that a person would even suggest that.  Why don't you do as asked, level your DK and Ranger up and got to a hard grind spot, then come back here and tell me you don't need HP sustain on the class.  Before you comment on if a class needs anything, I suggest spending more than 5 minutes using said class.

 

Hey smart guy, how does a Ranger Recover HP via her base kit.

For puri to heal decently, it has to be far enough away for the range of the hits to hit. shift+e is 30%, not 100%, 30% is not 'full'. 
"BuT mY bOsS aLt" I suggest you spend more than 5 minutes using said class. lmao.

I don't know why you're so mad.
I suggested to try and use skills that have +hp on hit and also skill add ons.
Please show me where I said they don't need better self healing. Did I?? No.
Did I say ANYTHING about ranger? No.
Keep crying kid, still doesn't change the fact you haven't answered OP's question, nor have you even given suggestions on how to fix the problem.

You're just here to cry.
Before you start crying like a child, how about giving some actual input for the opening post instead of acting like shitter.

Last Edit : Apr 9, 2021, 00:40 (UTC)
# 10
On: Apr 8, 2021, 07:46 (UTC), Written by PlasticDK

That ability do little damage with long animation time, unprotected, melee with a small AOE. It's not easy to hit 10targets with that. Also that heals 40 / hit at max skill level.

That is a trash ability and if you use that, you already doing something wrong. You better use potions or smash HP regen on your actually usefull abilities.

Since you can act like an adult and actually main the class, do you have any issues with self healing? If so, what would you suggest for better self healing?

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