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Possible RMT Solution
Jun 3, 2021, 06:33 (UTC)
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Last Edit : Jun 3, 2021, 10:03 (UTC)
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In light of the recent controversy regarding "Real Money Trade" with high end weapons like PEN Blackstar (here), I thought it was time to revive this post idea that I made 11 months ago and let players talk about it. :)
 
These two concepts for in-game weapon exchange solve multiple issues within Black Desert.
 
 
1. Boss Weapon Consolidation
The first concept allows players to list their weapons under a broader catagory, and gives the buyer the option to choose which class to buy the weapon for.
 
All Weapons Types on the Central Market can be combined into a single item regardless of class. Example: All Dandelion weapons for all classes are now listed as one item called "Dandelion."
Dande Box
 
 
When purchasing a weapon, select which class to buy it for from the drop-down menu.
Class Select
This effectively weapon swaps boss items for the price of tax when selling it to another player.  You could also remove the class drop-down and just leave the weapon in a box to be opened on the class of your choosing (both methods achieve the same end).

Below is a method that the player could use to do the same process for the same price (tax).
 
 
2. Black Spirit Transmutation
 
"Transmutation Stone" could be bought from all Blacksmiths within each major city for ~15,000,000 (this is a rough estimate and would be balanced by Pearl Abyss, as I am terrible at math). These stones are consumed by the black spirit when converting a weapon to a new class. The stones required for Transmutation should be roughly equivalent to the taxes of the maximum marketplace Value -or- the same price as item copy tagging.
 
ITEM STONES PRICE
 
V 130 stones 1,950,000,000
IV 13 stones 195,000,000
III 5 stones 75,000,000
II 4 stones 60,000,000
I 3 stones 45,000,000
+15 2 stones 30,000,000
+14 2 stones 30,000,000
+13 2 stones 30,000,000
+0-12 1 stone 15,000,000
 
 
  • Discourages RMT - Using Blackstar Weapon as an example, it becomes much harder to sell an item to another individual because with all classes combined, there will likely be many more preorders up for the same item.
  • Enabling Buying of end-game Items - This also ties into the RMT issue. Players who want to buy big upgrades with silver (Like PEN Blackstar Weapon) can now reliably do so.
  • In-Game Weapon Exchange - You can now freely exchange weapons in-game but still at a cost.
  • Caphras - Saves the player silver by allowing them to weapon swap without having to extract caphras.
  • New Silver Sink - Adds a new silver sink to the game and helps balance inflation.

 

Reddit Mirror Post: https://www.reddit.com/r/blackdesertonline/comments/nr6kp8/possible_rmt_solutions/

Last Edit : Jun 3, 2021, 07:22 (UTC)
# 2

What rmt happened actually?

 

Is there like a way to bypass cm or smth that we arent aware of? Since they made the trade already centralized I don't get how or what point is there to rmt anyway

 

 

Last Edit : Jun 3, 2021, 07:51 (UTC)
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On: Jun 3, 2021, 07:22 (UTC), Written by Gooyoung

What rmt happened actually?

 

Is there like a way to bypass cm or smth that we arent aware of? Since they made the trade already centralized I don't get how or what point is there to rmt anyway

 

 

It is very much all speculation, but people are thinking that PA restricted trading because people are min listing pen blackstar for RMT, and they're trying to fix that. In reality no one know exactly why items over 10b are restricted right now. It might be RMT, or it might be a bug who knows.

Last Edit : Jun 3, 2021, 07:53 (UTC)
# 4

The class selection is pointless.

You overcomplicate it for no benefit. They should simply add an item, which you can use to put it in back to the box. (A reform stones can be used for it.) And people will sell and buy the boxes instead.

You buy it, and then you open it to get it whathewer class you are. Just like regular boxes.

 

And I don't even understand the chapras part, that would be still needed to extract anyway.

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Last Edit : Jun 3, 2021, 08:11 (UTC)
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On: Jun 3, 2021, 07:51 (UTC), Written by asdsadfas

It is very much all speculation, but people are thinking that PA restricted trading because people are min listing pen blackstar for RMT, and they're trying to fix that. In reality no one know exactly why items over 10b are restricted right now. It might be RMT, or it might be a bug who knows.

I was thinking of that case too, but then it doesn't make sense when considered from supply and demand

 

Minlisting pen blackstar would mean they will compete with like all the PO for that. Theres no way to prove its RMT either since its from marketplace. Even if its rmt, if theres no PO and they are able to minlist, supply and demand law means that item is unfavorable and thus is balanced to be minlisted. I am genuinely curious lol

Last Edit : Jun 3, 2021, 08:16 (UTC)
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On: Jun 3, 2021, 08:11 (UTC), Written by Gooyoung

I was thinking of that case too, but then it doesn't make sense when considered from supply and demand

 

Minlisting pen blackstar would mean they will compete with like all the PO for that. Theres no way to prove its RMT either since its from marketplace. Even if its rmt, if theres no PO and they are able to minlist, supply and demand law means that item is unfavorable and thus is balanced to be minlisted. I am genuinely curious lol

pen bs rmt is more common than you think, though whether or not this was to address that is a question. there are a bunch of pen bs that don't have a preorder, and you basically transfer the weapon to that class to sell to someone. 

Last Edit : Jun 3, 2021, 08:19 (UTC)
# 7
On: Jun 3, 2021, 08:11 (UTC), Written by Gooyoung

I was thinking of that case too, but then it doesn't make sense when considered from supply and demand

 

Minlisting pen blackstar would mean they will compete with like all the PO for that. Theres no way to prove its RMT either since its from marketplace. Even if its rmt, if theres no PO and they are able to minlist, supply and demand law means that item is unfavorable and thus is balanced to be minlisted. I am genuinely curious lol

https://www.naeu.playblackdesert.com/en-US/News/Detail?groupContentNo=1105&countryType=en-US

Last Edit : Jun 3, 2021, 11:01 (UTC)
# 8
On: Jun 3, 2021, 08:19 (UTC), Written by BrizzTv

https://www.naeu.playblackdesert.com/en-US/News/Detail?groupContentNo=1105&countryType=en-US

Thing is they didnt say anything there other than "yes theres exploit"

Last Edit : Jun 3, 2021, 12:19 (UTC)
# 9

I actually suggested a long time ago that all weapons should be sold in boxes on the CM.  Not just boss weapons but all weapons, additionally any base version of any weapon could be used to repair a weapon as long as it's the same type.  IE if you have a +14 rosar mainhand you need to repair the durability on, any base version mainhand or mainhand box could be used for max durability repair.  A green weapon would only repair .1 durability on boss weapons, but would repair 1 dura on a blue weapon and 10 dura on a green weapon, white weapons/armor would not be able to repair any green+ weapons/armor.  Blue weapons would repair 1 durability on a boss weapon but would fully repair a green weapon.  This way if you wanted to repair a boss weapon's durability by 10 you could buy and use 100 green weapons or 10 blue weapons to repair instead of just using memory fragments.  This would also allow for the 100,000 green weapons on the market to be used for something other than melting.

 

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Last Edit : Jun 3, 2021, 13:04 (UTC)
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I also sugested the boxing already, but oh well, noone cares about the suggestions...

 

btw they not gonna make repairs possible with greens. That way noone would buy artisans...

Yeah the economy is in a terrible state, especially those useless greens, but it's still a profit orianted company at the end of day, and this would literately cut their revenoue for no actually benefit for them...

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